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Friday, 1 August 2014
why impeachment is all over
My path to the presidency is clear
•Jonathan has case to answer on Adamawa
SAM Nda- Isaiah, who until recently resigned his
position as the Publisher of Leadership
Newspapers, in this interview, wants all democratic
arsenals to be deployed towards ensuring that
President Goodluck Jonathan does not continue till
2019.
Nda-Isaiah’s grouse is hinged on his believe that
the perceived incompetence of the administration, is
responsible for the current disorderly state of the
nation. He also says his decision to run for the
presidency on the platform of the All Progressives
Congress, APC, was informed by the desire to
arrest Nigeria’s descent to doom. Excerpts:
BY CHARLES KUMOLU
YOUR decision to run for the presidency has
attracted mixed reactions. In the mind of some
people, you are probably acting out a script while
others don’t consider you a serious aspirant. Are
you really serious about running?
I don’t think any body will say so. Maybe some
people said so at the beginning but by now,I think it
has become very clear to those people. Whose
script are my acting? I am glad that you read my
articles and I am sure that you and many of those
who know me, understand my passion for this
country and my desire to see it work.
I don’t need to act a script. Before deciding to run, l
had a good job which I was enjoying. I have always
said that it is a better paying job than the
presidency.
Running for the presidency is not something I
jumped into without giving it a serious thought. It is
not a job to be enjoyed. It does not make sense to
say that I am acting a script. I think some people
always judge by their standards. If I did not see a
path to victory, I would not waste my time by getting
involved in the process. I had a job that I was
enjoying and l believe it pays better than the
presidency. The presidency appears lucrative for
those who want to steal public funds.
Two prominent leaders in your party, Bola Tinubu
and Gen Mohammadu Buhari, rtd, are being touted
as possible presidential candidates. Don’t you think
that their rumored ambition might affect your
chances?
Buhari has not said that he will contest even though
that it is most likely that he will. For Asiwaju, there
was a rumour that he will contest but that has died
down. Every body has a strategy. I have the one
that will give me victory. I think that every body that
intends to contest in the APC should have his own
strategy.
I don’t think that anybody will be a threat to
anyone. I think that anybody that will win would be
someone with superior advantages because there
is going to be primaries. It is not as if somebody is
going to be imposed on the party. And if there is
going to be consensus, it is going to be a real
consensus. Such consensus will have the blessing
of everyone.
Would you support Buhari if he the consensus
favours him?
By the constitution of the party, even if there will be
a consensus, there will still be primaries.
Consensus does not overrule primaries. I am in this
race to win. So far I am the only person who has
declared publicly and I don’t think I will be the only
person ultimately. And I am doing all I need to
ensure that we win.
Would you decamp if you lose out in the party
selection?
A real consensus is a situation where everyone has
agreed on one person. And it is still open to be
contested by a few aspirants who may not agree
with consensus. Those candidates will still go
ahead and contest in the primaries. I was in CPC
before it joined other parties to form the APC. I have
never jumped the ship. I cannot leave my party for
another one because of desperation for power.
Everybody in the APC has agreed on the need to
step careful when choosing our presidential
candidate because Nigerians are watching us. APC
is not the defunct CPC, ACN or ANPP where one
powerful person can impose candidates on the
party. Nobody is big enough to impose candidates
on the APC.
So nobody has been imposed on the party. People
are free to strategise on who to be their running
mate. It is all part of the strategies that I told you
about. I will not be telling you my own strategy.
What is your plan to revive Nigeria?
We intend to start afresh as a nation because every
thing is wrong. This is not how to run a nation. Our
message is on two legs. Unity of the nation has to
come first.
Nigerians have to come together and act as one
strong indivisible nation if we intend to make
progress. If we intend to move from where we are
now to a better future, we must do that as one
strong indivisible nation. Countries that are better
than us did that to get to where they are now.
Indivisible nation
It is sad that we see ourselves as northerners,
southerners, Christians, Muslims, Pentecostals or
Catholics.
We are too divided in this country. We can’t
continue like that as a nation. The division is
happening because the leaders want it to happen.
To unite this country is easy. You don’t need a
budget to unite this country. All you need is to be
sincere and ensure justice and fairness for all. If as
president, you treat the nation the way you treat
your family, we will be united. But that is not how
Nigeria is being run.
You don’t become desperate for power at the
expense of the future of the nation. Ultimately, it will
backfire. Our second message is on security. I
would not have added this to what we intend to do if
not that the security situation has become so bad.
The primary function of any president is to secure
the lives of his people.
Whether you are a democrat or a monarch the first
job of any leader is to secure his people. The leader
that we have now has failed. It is not difficult to
achieve.
Don’t forget that our police men and security
forces used to be adjudged as one of the best in the
world in those days when we used to go for
peacekeeping. But corruption has changed it all.
When you send two hundred guns without bullets to
four hundred soldiers, what do you expect? The
state governments now get fifty percent of their
monthly allocations instead of hundred because the
money that would be made has all been stolen
today. So there is no money to do any thing.
There was a time that Fashola used to give a billion
Naira yearly to the police, but that is no longer done.
Other state governments also contributed to their
state police commands even though there is no
state police but many of them cant be able to do that
any more because they get only fifty percent of their
allocation. That is also an impeachable offense.
Some governors have gone to court several times
but nothing came out of it. As long as you tackle
corruption as the president, you will have money to
carry out developmental functions. As we speak
now there is no money to do anything.
In the past we used to send our troops for peace
keeping in African countries, now Ghana has said
that they would be gracious to send us troops to
fight Boko Haram. That is an insult. We are the giant
of Africa and should be strong enough to protect
ourselves and other African nations. Nigeria is not a
small country, so we should not belittle the country
because of our incompetence and corruption.
Your party has been having serious reverses in
Ekiti, Adamawa and now Nasarawa. Is there any
problem with the party?
Somebody decided to take the law into his hands by
bribing the House of Assembly members with
$300,000 each. The alleged offense of Nyako was
committed five years ago when he was still in PDP.
The president should be asked why he thinks it is
possible to run a state like this.
Knowing the history
I keep saying that the president has to be careful.
This is Nigeria, and if you know the history very
well you will know that you don’t just take the
people for a ride. If you think that you can do
something and say that you are not the one, you
will not go free in Nigeria. Many APC governors
have been penciled down for impeachment.
One thing that is clear to me is that no matter what
Jonathan does, it is not possible to continue in the
state that we are now. We can’t continue in this
state of disorder, insecurity, corruption and theft
beyond 2015.
Nigerians are going to rescue themselves, the
president should not think that he will do all these
and continue till 2019. Nigerians will rescue their
country. It is not the APC that should be asked
about the impeachment.
If you don’t emerge as the candidate, what
happens?
We intend to win. Wait and see our strategies. We
are not planning for failure, because we are sure of
victory. The APC is not going to anoint any
candidate. We will conduct our primaries.
The APC is not like the PDP where Jonathan will
decide not to conduct primaries. The APC is the
most democratic party in Nigeria today. We know
what is happening in the PDP.
All the governors that decamped from the PDP did
that because they knew there was no equity and
justice in the PDP. They are here because they
know there will be fairness even though the
President wants to impeach every body. Maybe the
controversial twenty billion dollars was enmarked
for the purpose of sponsoring impeachments. They
are using corruption to fight alleged corruption.
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